Legislature(2003 - 2004)

03/02/2004 09:03 AM Senate FIN

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                     SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                 
                          March 02, 2004                                                                                      
                              9:03 AM                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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SFC-04 # 25,  Side A                                                                                                            
SFC 04 # 25,  Side B                                                                                                            
SFC 04 # 26,  Side A                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Gary Wilken convened  the meeting at approximately 9:03 AM.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Lyda Green, Co-Chair                                                                                                    
Senator Gary Wilken, Co-Chair                                                                                                   
Senator Con Bunde, Vice Chair                                                                                                   
Senator Fred Dyson                                                                                                              
Senator Lyman Hoffman                                                                                                           
Senator Ben Stevens                                                                                                             
Senator Con Bunde                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Also Attending:   CHERYL FRASCA, Director, Office  of Management and                                                          
Budget;  NICO  BUS, Administrative  Services  Manager,  Division  of                                                            
Support  Services, Department  of Natural  Resources; BOB  LOEFFLER,                                                            
Director, Division  of Mining Land and Water, Department  of Natural                                                            
Resources;  ERIC  SWANSON,  Director,  Division   of Administrative                                                             
Services,  Department  of Administration;  STAN  HERRERA,  Director,                                                            
Enterprise    Technology    Services   Division,    Department    of                                                            
Administration;  TOM LAWSON,  Director, Division  of Administrative                                                             
Services, Department  of Community  and Economic Development;  JERRY                                                            
BURNETT, Director,  Division of Administrative Services,  Department                                                            
of Corrections;                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Attending   via  Teleconference:     From  an  off  net   site:  ROD                                                          
COMBELLICK, Acting Director,  Division of Geological and Geophysical                                                            
Surveys, Department of  Natural Resources; JEFF JOHNSON, Boating Law                                                            
Administrator,  Office  of Boating  Safety,  Division  of Parks  and                                                            
Outdoor Recreation, Department of Natural Resources                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY INFORMATION                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SB 257-APPROP: CAPITAL PROJECTS                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
The Committee heard an  overview of the Governor's proposal from the                                                            
Office of Management  and Budget and  presentations of the  requests                                                            
by  the  Department   of  Natural   Resources,  the  Department   of                                                            
Administration,   the   Department   of   Community   and   Economic                                                            
Development,  and the Department of  Corrections. The bill  was held                                                            
in Committee.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     SENATE BILL NO. 257                                                                                                        
     "An  Act   making  capital  appropriations   and  supplemental                                                             
     appropriations;     capitalizing     funds;    making     other                                                            
     appropriations;  making  appropriations   under art.  IX,  sec.                                                            
     17(c), Constitution  of the State of Alaska;  and providing for                                                            
     an effective date."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
This  was the first  hearing  for this  bill in  the Senate  Finance                                                            
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken   announced  the  Committee  would   begin  hearing                                                            
overviews  of the  projects by  various  departments as  well as  an                                                            
overview from the Office of Management and Budget.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHERYL FRASCA, Director,  Office of Management and Budget, testified                                                            
that  the FY  05  capital  budget,  as originally  proposed  by  the                                                            
Governor  was  $1.5  billion.   After  submission  of  a  number  of                                                            
amendments,  she listed  the  revised amount  at  $1.6 billion.  She                                                            
acknowledged this  amount is significant, but pointed  out that most                                                            
of the funds  are federal. She stated  that this proposal  "took the                                                            
opportunity"  to leverage  State funds rather  than issue bonds,  of                                                            
approximately  $50 million from the Alaska Student  Loan Corporation                                                            
(ASLC).  She reminded  that  the enabling  legislation  passed  from                                                            
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Frasca furthered that  Alaska Housing Finance Corporation (AHFC)                                                            
debt  capacity would  also be  utilized to  fund the  FY 05  capital                                                            
budget: approximately  $25 million in bonds primarily  for water and                                                            
sewer  projects. She  spoke  of legislation  pending  in the  Senate                                                            
Finance Committee,  SB279  that would enable  the issuance  of these                                                            
bonds.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Frasca  also  relayed that  the Administration  had anticipated                                                             
utilizing $40 million,  categorized as general funds, generated from                                                            
the purchase  by AHFC  of State-owned  assets.  However, she  stated                                                            
that  upon  review,  this  option  was not  chosen.  She  said  that                                                            
instead,  original proposal  to appropriate  $20  million AHFC  bond                                                            
proceeds  would  be increased  to  $40 million.  She  informed  that                                                            
available  funding  for  the  initial   FY  05  capital  budget  was                                                            
calculated  to be short $73  million, and  that the decision  to not                                                            
purchase State-owned assets  by AHFC, makes the budget short another                                                            
$20 million.  She noted this  information is  based on the  December                                                            
2003 revenue forecast.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken clarified  the  amount of  funds  for the  proposed                                                            
capital budget is short $20 million general funds.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Frasca affirmed.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Frasca  listed  transportation  as  the  top  priority  of  the                                                            
proposed  budget, consisting  of about 72  percent or $1.2  billion.                                                            
She  stated  that  the  original  budget  proposal   contained  $115                                                            
million, which  is approximately $286 million higher  than the FY 04                                                            
appropriation.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Frasca  pointed  out that  funding  for  University  of  Alaska                                                            
capital projects  would be  the second largest  expenditure  at $153                                                            
million total  funds, with  the third largest  expenditures  of $148                                                            
million  planned  for  Department  of  Health  and  Social  Services                                                            
projects.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Frasca  noted  that approximately  $1 billion  contained in  the                                                            
proposed  capital   budget  is  federal  highway  project   funding,                                                            
although  the  US   Congress  has  not  approved  appropriation   of                                                            
approximately $900 million of that amount.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Frasca  stated that several of  the proposed projects  relate to                                                            
Governor Murkowski's  infrastructure  development program  for rural                                                            
Alaska,  including  industrial  road programs,  development  on  the                                                            
North Slope, and an access  road. She noted $12 million is requested                                                            
to rebuild bridges along  the Richardson Highway, which is part of a                                                            
national security project  for the natural gas pipeline project. She                                                            
also listed  the proposed  Gravina Island  Crossing project  and the                                                            
Juneau Access road project.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Frasca directed  attention  to  an amendment  to  the  proposed                                                            
budget  related  to  the  municipal  and  unincorporated   community                                                            
capital  matching  grant  programs.  She  explained  this  amendment                                                            
"relies"  on the  "reversal of  the sweep"  i.e.,  a combination  of                                                            
funds "swept  into" the  Constitutional Budget  Reserve (CBR)  fund,                                                            
and balances in  the accounts allocated to several  communities. She                                                            
noted that much of the  unallocated funds were not allocated because                                                            
the Governor vetoed the  appropriation. This amendment, she informed                                                            
would allow appropriation of the available funds.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken stated the Committee would discuss this matter                                                                  
further with Department of Community and Economic Development                                                                   
staff.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Department of Natural Resources                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
NICO BUS, Administrative Services Manager, Division of Support                                                                  
Services, Department of Natural Resources, noted the projects of                                                                
this Department are listed in priority order.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Northern Region (Fairbanks) Office Building Roof                                                                           
     $374,000 AHFC Bonds                                                                                                        
     Reference No.: 38873                                                                                                       
     Category: General Government                                                                                               
     Location: Fairbanks Areawide                                                                                               
     Election District: Fairbanks Areawide                                                                                      
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2004 - 06/30/2005                                                                           
     Phased - Underway Project                                                                                                  
     This  project funds  roof replacement  for the Northern  Region                                                            
     Office  of the DNR  which houses five  divisions, will  protect                                                            
     structural  and equipment  assets, repair  damage caused  by an                                                            
     old  and  deficient  roof,  and  extend  the life  of  the  DNR                                                            
     Fairbanks  Office,  a  DNR-owned building.  This  project  also                                                            
     enhances energy efficiency  and brings the building into closer                                                            
     compliance  with building codes. Currently, roof  leaks require                                                            
     stopgap  measures of buckets  on floors, and garbage  bags tied                                                            
     to ceiling  joists in areas including conference  rooms, files,                                                            
     electrical  equipment  and public  offices.  This project  will                                                            
     allow  all   departmental  offices  to  meet   the  mission  of                                                            
     providing   services  to  the  public  in  a  warm,  safe,  dry                                                            
     environment.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bus outlined this item.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Forestry  Building  Repairs  to Correct  Fire  and Life  Safety                                                            
     Deficiencies                                                                                                               
     $311,700 AHFC Bonds                                                                                                        
     Reference No.: 38879                                                                                                       
     Category: Natural Resources                                                                                                
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2004 - 06/30/2006                                                                           
     On-Going Project                                                                                                           
     This  project  protects  State assets  by  correcting  priority                                                            
     Building  Fire and Life Safety  deficiencies identified  in the                                                            
     2002-03  Forestry Building  Conditions  Survey, and  identifies                                                            
     the  location and  extent of  hazardous  materials in  Forestry                                                            
     buildings.  Safety systems including detectors  and alarms will                                                            
     be  improved   and  installed;  electrical  circuits   will  be                                                            
     properly  grounded  and  bonded;  and  emergency  lighting  and                                                            
     signage will  be acquired and installed. These  fire and safety                                                            
     code   compliance  improvements   will  be  made  in   Forestry                                                            
     structures  statewide, where the public visits  and where staff                                                            
     regularly works. The  project ensures cost-effective management                                                            
     of State  structures with a replacement  value exceeding  $14M.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bus informed that these  proposed projects were recommended by a                                                            
consultant and identified  many code violations and involved several                                                            
buildings. He explained  the categorization of the projects based on                                                            
the severity of risk.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Royalty Oil Settlement Price Reopeners                                                                                     
     $200,000 Alaska Student Loan Corporation (ASLC) Dividend                                                                   
     Reference No.: 31371                                                                                                       
     Category: Development                                                                                                      
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2004 - 06/30/2008                                                                           
     On-Going Project                                                                                                           
     One of the  Department's missions is to maximize  revenues from                                                            
     oil  and gas production.  This CIP will  allow the Division  to                                                            
     monitor  and reopen existing  royalty settlement agreements  to                                                            
     assure that the formulas  contained in those agreements reflect                                                            
     the  full value of royalty  production.  Funds will be  used to                                                            
     retain experts  to analyze and evaluate oil and  gas values and                                                            
     tanker,  pipeline, field, and  processing costs, as  well as to                                                            
     train the Division's  commercial analysts and auditors in these                                                            
     matters.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bus  told how  under the terms  of the  lease contracts,  either                                                            
party  could open  negotiations  on  the  terms and  conditions.  He                                                            
stated that  the Department  is currently  involved in such  actions                                                            
with  Exxon,  and the  funds  would  be utilized  to  employ  expert                                                            
witnesses  and  other   expenditures  for  supporting   the  State's                                                            
position.  He  noted the  potential  revenue  increases  of  several                                                            
million dollars from these re-openers.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  pointed out funding  for several proposed  projects                                                            
using ASLC  or AHFC dividends for  the first year and general  funds                                                            
in future years.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green asked  if the Department  costs  of these  re-opener                                                            
activities  is  ever  reimbursed   from  the  producers  though  the                                                            
negotiated contracts.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bus answered no, that  the producers are on the "other side" and                                                            
would not want the Department to have the information sought                                                                    
through these efforts.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Accelerating  and  Promoting Alaska  Peninsula  Lease Sale  and                                                            
     Exploration License                                                                                                        
     $340,000 ASLC Dividend                                                                                                     
     Reference No.: 38871                                                                                                       
     Category: Development                                                                                                      
     Location: Bristol Bay Borough                                                                                              
     Election District: Bristol Bay/Aleutians                                                                                   
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2004 - 06/30/2005                                                                           
     One-Time Project                                                                                                           
     This  project  will  allow  the  Division   to  (1)  accelerate                                                            
     critical  path  processes  in order  to meet  2004-2005  Alaska                                                            
     Peninsula  Exploration License and Lease Sale,  (2) promote the                                                            
     proposed  oil  and gas  lease  sale  on the  Alaska  Peninsula,                                                            
     tentatively   scheduled   for   October   2005,   at   industry                                                            
     gatherings,  (3) conduct community  informational meetings  and                                                            
     public  hearings,  and  technical  meetings  with  Bristol  Bay                                                            
     Native  Corporation  (honoring  intent  of  our  Memorandum  of                                                            
     Understanding),  and (4) obtain gravity data  in order to model                                                            
     the basin configuration.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bus read the project description into the record.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Oil and Gas Seismic, Well and Lease Data Acquisition                                                                       
     $320,000 general funds                                                                                                     
     Reference No.: 33977                                                                                                       
     Category: Development                                                                                                      
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2004 - 06/30/2005                                                                           
     On-Going Project                                                                                                           
     Proper  management and  oversight of  oil and gas exploration,                                                             
     leasing  and development  activities  on State  lands  requires                                                            
     that the  Division maintain a  degree of technical parity  with                                                            
     explorers,  lessees and  operators. The  Division's mission  of                                                            
     responsibility  managing  and  encouraging development  of  the                                                            
     State's  petroleum resources  requires that it have  funding to                                                            
     acquire, analyze,  preserve, protect and distribute oil and gas                                                            
     exploration    and   development   data;   to    maintain   the                                                            
     geoscientific   and   engineering   skills   and  applications                                                             
     necessary   to   do  so  and   to   electronically   distribute                                                            
     appropriate   technical  and  lease  data   to  the  public  to                                                            
     encourage and accelerate  additional development of the State's                                                            
     petroleum resources.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bus expressed that in order to properly manage oil and gas                                                                  
resources and gather site data on State-owned lands, higher                                                                     
technical  parity  is  needed.  He  stated  this  funding  would  be                                                            
utilized to purchase seismic,  well or lease data, to strengthen the                                                            
State's position  in lease negotiations.  He added that these  funds                                                            
would allow  be utilized  to upgrade software  equipment to  current                                                            
technology.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator  B. Stevens  compared  this request  to the  request of  the                                                            
previous fiscal  year, notably the $98,000 requested  both years for                                                            
the purchase  of equipment. He asked  if new equipment is  purchased                                                            
each year.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
It was established  that no representative from the  Division of Oil                                                            
and Gas was available to address this question.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bus indicated the Department would provide a response.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator B. Stevens commented  that this request indicates sequential                                                            
increases at least until  the year 2009, although the request of the                                                            
prior year indicated decreased  annual requests. However, the backup                                                            
data is the same for both years' requests.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Unified Permitting Process Phase 1                                                                                         
     $983,700 general funds                                                                                                     
     Reference No.: 37782                                                                                                       
     Category: Development                                                                                                      
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2004 - 06/30/2006                                                                           
     Phased-New Project                                                                                                         
     This  CIP develops an  interactive application  system  for the                                                            
     Department  of  Natural  Resources  to  guide  individuals  and                                                            
     businesses  to the correct authorization application  and guide                                                            
     them to  supply the correct information  for that application.                                                             
     This general  fund component of the unified interactive  permit                                                            
     application  would first focus on application  types within the                                                            
     Division  of  Mining, Land  and  Water. The  federal  component                                                            
     focuses  on  the consistency   review process  for  the  Alaska                                                            
     Coastal  Management   Program.  Subsequently  the  base  system                                                            
     created   will   extend   to   other  relevant   authorization                                                             
     applications within  the Department, including Title 41 permits                                                            
     administered   by  the   Office  of   Habitat  Management   and                                                            
     Permitting.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bus noted this requests  the largest amount of general funds. He                                                            
informed  that currently  many developers  must  deal with  multiple                                                            
divisions  within  the  Department   and  that  this  project  would                                                            
streamline  the process  and would  allow businesses  to submit  one                                                            
permit  application. He  detailed how  this system  would guide  the                                                            
applicants  through the process.  He also  noted this would  combine                                                            
databanks within the Department.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken asked  if this  program would  replace an  existing                                                            
system and if so, why that system requires changing.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bus told  of the land administration  system installed  in 1986.                                                            
Although  updates have been  implemented to  make the process  "more                                                            
friendly",  he  stated  that  the outdated  system  has  never  been                                                            
replaced.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken   asked  if  this  is  addressed   in  the  Project                                                            
Description/Justification    statement  accompanying   this   budget                                                            
request.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bus replied that the  intent is that the State accounting system                                                            
would be  upgraded and  that the  revenue and  billing functions  of                                                            
this project could be integrated.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken noted that  this project is  listed as phased,  but                                                            
that the  Project Description/Justification   statement provides  no                                                            
indication of future funding  requests. He suggested that an outline                                                            
of proposed future expenditure be included.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bus listed  the various programs  this project would  affect. He                                                            
stated the intent is to  complete as much of the project as possible                                                            
with  this  appropriation,  but  was  unsure  whether  it  would  be                                                            
completed with one appropriation.  He relayed this would depend upon                                                            
the capabilities  of private contractors and the ability  to utilize                                                            
"off  the  shelf"  software.  He  was  uncertain   how  many  future                                                            
appropriations  would  be  requested  nor the  amount  necessary  to                                                            
complete the project.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Wilken   again   asked  if   the   Project  Description/                                                             
Justification statement indicates this.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bus answered it does not.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken   directed  future   statements  to  include   this                                                            
information.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman asked if  any of the funds be expended for personnel                                                            
costs.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bus replied  that the intent is  to utilize private contractors                                                             
to implement  the  new system.  He furthered  that Department  staff                                                            
would then be educated  on the system to provide future maintenance.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  asked why an outline of the portion  of these funds                                                            
that would  be expended for  personnel, travel  and other costs  was                                                            
not provided.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bus explained  that several  reviews  were underway  when  this                                                            
project was originally  drafted, including the implementation  of an                                                            
updated  coastal  management  program  and the  acquisition  of  the                                                            
habitat  permitting   functions.  He  informed  that   the  original                                                            
estimated  cost of this project  was $2 million,  and that  attempts                                                            
were  made   to  determine   the  maximum   amount  that  could   be                                                            
accomplished with $1 million.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  requested the breakdown  of expenditures  of the $2                                                            
million intended for the completed project.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Oil  and Gas Reservoir  Potential for  Gas in the Brooks  Range                                                            
     Foothills Phase 2                                                                                                          
     $190,000 general funds                                                                                                     
     Reference No.: 37736                                                                                                       
     Category: Development                                                                                                      
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2004 - 06/30/2005                                                                           
     Phased-Underway Project                                                                                                    
     This project  seeks to catalyze private-sector  gas exploration                                                            
     and  production  in the  Brooks  Range foothills  by  providing                                                            
     critical data for  several prospective reservoir intervals. The                                                            
     Brooks Range foothills  belt may contain over 30 trilling cubic                                                            
     feet of  gas, however, potential  gas reservoirs in  the region                                                            
     are  poorly understood  and  pose significant  exploration  and                                                            
     production   challenges.   Low  permeabilities   in   potential                                                            
     reservoirs   encountered  in  some  North  Slope   wells  raise                                                            
     important questions  on gas deliverability. Critical data needs                                                            
     include  a subsurface stratigraphic  framework tied  to surface                                                            
     exposures   and   reservoir   quality   information.   Detailed                                                            
     geological  information   will  be a  key  to  developing  this                                                            
     resource.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bus read the summary statement into the record.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken reminded  that this  project was  fully funded  the                                                            
previous year  at $50,000 and was  listed as a one-time project.  He                                                            
asked why the  designation has changed to a phased-underway  project                                                            
and what the expectations of funding are for future years.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bus responded  that the designation  of one-time project  was an                                                            
error, and  that the intent  has always been  that this would  be an                                                            
on-going  project costing  a total $250,000.  He furthered  that the                                                            
original request for FY 04 was $250,000, but the Governor reduced                                                               
the request to $50,000.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
ROD  COMBELLICK,   Acting  Director,  Division  of  Geological   and                                                            
Geophysical Surveys, Department  of Natural Resources, testified via                                                            
teleconference  from an offnet site that the intent  is this project                                                            
would be completed with this appropriation.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken clarified the phases of the project are FY 04 and                                                               
FY 05.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Combellick affirmed.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Oil and Gas Leasing  and Accounting Systems Integration Phase 2                                                            
     $100,000 general funds                                                                                                     
     Reference No.: 37969                                                                                                       
     Category: Natural Resources                                                                                                
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2003 - 06/30/2006                                                                           
     Phased-Underway Project                                                                                                    
     Phase  2 of this project is requested  to meet a critical  need                                                            
     to  redesign  and  expand  the existing  Oil  and  Gas  Royalty                                                            
     Accounting System  (OGRA) capabilities. The Division of Oil and                                                            
     Gas Management  and Commercial Analysts have  a need to extract                                                            
     royalty accounting  and lease data. This FY 05  capital project                                                            
     will  complete  the redesign  of  the existing  Accounting  and                                                            
     Lease  Systems  to  eliminate  duplications   between  the  two                                                            
     systems  and to  enhance reporting  and  audit capabilities.  A                                                            
     September 2002 completed  external review verified the internal                                                            
     assessment  by the  Department  that the database  needs  to be                                                            
     redesigned  in order to meet current and expected  needs of the                                                            
     State, and maximize revenue generation and valuation.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bus informed that the review was completed and a contract would                                                             
be rewarded as part of the first phase of this project.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
      Recorder's Office Film Conversion Phase 2 (Completion)                                                                    
     $250,000 Receipt Services                                                                                                  
     Reference No.: 37732                                                                                                       
     Category: General Government                                                                                               
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2004 - 06/30/2005                                                                           
     Phased-Underway Project                                                                                                    
     One of  the primary statutory  functions of the Recorder's/UCC                                                             
     component  is to provide its customers with easy  access to the                                                            
     permanent public records.  This project supports this statutory                                                            
     function in two ways:  (1) it enables the component to complete                                                            
     the project  started in FY 04 to digitize document  images from                                                            
     existing  film records  for the past  ten years statewide;  and                                                            
     (2)  it  enhances  the  mainframe   based  indexing  system  by                                                            
     providing  a  direct  link  to  the  document  images,  thereby                                                            
     replacing the cumbersome  and time-consuming microfiche process                                                            
     currently  used for  customer research  and retrieval  of these                                                            
     older records.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bus pointed out this  project has bee fully funded from receipts                                                            
generated from the Recorder's  Office. He reminded that beginning in                                                            
the year 2001 new recordings  were done electronically, and industry                                                            
has requested that recordings  up to ten years prior be converted to                                                            
electronic  format. He stated this  undertaking would eliminate  the                                                            
need to manually review  microfiche files in the Recorder's Offices.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde  asked about previous reluctance of  service providers                                                            
to participate in this  project due to the pricing of bulk film, and                                                            
asked how this project would change the pricing.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bus responded  that the filming  process is antiquated  and that                                                            
information  could be processed on  compact discs inexpensively  and                                                            
quickly. He  also relayed that the  Department solicited  input from                                                            
businesses  to test the new system  told of a title company  located                                                            
in Ketchikan, which contributed funding to lower the pricing.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator   Bunde  asked  the   actual  cost   to  purchase   database                                                            
information.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bus was unsure.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
No  representative  from  the  Recorder's   Office  was  present  to                                                            
respond.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken requested a follow up.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator  B. Stevens  pointed  out  this request  is  identical to  a                                                            
request of the previous year except the amount was $380,000.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bus  agreed this  is the same  project, but  informed that  only                                                            
one-third of the necessary funding was appropriated in FY 04.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Remote Recreational Cabins Survey and Appraisals                                                                           
     $550,000 State Land Funds                                                                                                  
     Reference No.: 38480                                                                                                       
     Category: Natural Resources                                                                                                
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2004 - 06/30/2009                                                                           
     On-Going Project                                                                                                           
     This CIP  authorizes DNR to appraise  and contract for  surveys                                                            
     of   Remote  Recreational   Cabin  properties.   This   program                                                            
     contributes  to the  development of Alaska's  land through  the                                                            
     transfer  of land into private  ownership. This CIP  authorizes                                                            
     DNR  to spend money  already being  collected from applicants.                                                             
     Remote  Recreational  Cabins  is a stake-it-yourself   program.                                                            
     After  applicants stake their  parcels, DNR issues a  lease and                                                            
     collects  lessee's  money to  pay for surveys  and appraisals.                                                             
     Department of Natural  Resources contracts with one survey firm                                                            
     and one appraiser  to survey/appraise multiple parcels, thereby                                                            
     ensuring  that surveys  are  coordinated,  completed, and  done                                                            
     efficiently. An estimated  125 parcels will be staked in FY 05.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bus overviewed this request.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman asked the length of the leases.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bus answered three years.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman asked whether the leases are renewable.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
BOB  LOEFFLER,  Director,   Division  of  Mining  Land   and  Water,                                                            
Department  of Natural Resources,  explained the three year  process                                                            
developed with  former Senator Torgerson, with surveys  conducted in                                                            
the first year, appraisal  conducted in the second year and the land                                                            
purchased in the  third year. He qualified that statute  provides an                                                            
option  for lease  renewal, but  remarked  that it  is expected  the                                                            
sites would be purchased rather than leases renewed.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  asked if the appraisals are conducted  by the State                                                            
or contracted to another party.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Loeffler replied that  the State contracts or conducts itself, a                                                            
"key  parcel appraisal"  to give  potential  buyers an  idea of  the                                                            
general prices.  For some parcels, he stated the Department  applies                                                            
factors to  determine a  final appraisal  and others are  contracted                                                            
out.  He stressed  that  all surveys  are  contracted  to a  private                                                            
party.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman asked the number of acres parceled out to date.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Loeffler qualified  the  program was  implemented  in the  year                                                            
2001, and therefore the  first parcels would be leased this year. He                                                            
listed the average parcel size at 14 acres.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Land Disposals (New  Subdivisions; Kobe North and Fish Creek Ag                                                            
     Sales)                                                                                                                     
     $1,975,000 State Land Fund                                                                                                 
     Reference No.: 38886                                                                                                       
     Category: Development                                                                                                      
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2004 - 06/30/2006                                                                           
     One-Time Project                                                                                                           
     This  project   would  authorize  the  Department   of  Natural                                                            
     Resources  to  proposed,   design,  develop,  survey,  and,  if                                                            
     required  by municipal  platting authorities,  build roads  for                                                            
     new  subdivisions   and agricultural   sales.  This  CIP  would                                                            
     authorize DNR to spend  money from previous land sales that has                                                            
     been  deposited  in the  LDIF. Lands  would be  offered to  the                                                            
     public  by auction. If  this project  and the operating  budget                                                            
     increment  are fully funded, DNR intends to offer  at least 100                                                            
     new parcels  for sale in FY 05, 200 in FY 06  and 300 in FY 07.                                                            
     The  land sale program  continues to  the development  of state                                                            
     land by giving Alaskans  an opportunity to purchase land, while                                                            
     creating an income base for the State.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bus  remarked  that this project  is self-funded.  He  explained                                                            
that revenue from land sales is reinvested.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken  asked  if  the  revenue   is  generated  from  the                                                            
operating fund then deposited into the State land fund.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Loeffler  replied,  "the money  comes out of  the land  disposal                                                            
income fund  then flows back, and  then the revenues and  profits go                                                            
back in the land disposal income fund."                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken asked  the source  of  funds in  the land  disposal                                                            
income fund.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Loeffler  replied these funds  as the revenues from land  sales.                                                            
He characterized  this as working capital, which is  used to achieve                                                            
the highest level of return.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bus  furthered that statute  imposes a  limit on the balance  of                                                            
this  fund at  $5 million.  Any additional  revenue,  he stated,  is                                                            
deposited into the State general fund.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken asked if the program is working as envisioned.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Loeffler answered it is.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     State Park Emergency Repairs                                                                                               
     $300,000 Receipt Services                                                                                                  
     Reference No.: 6843                                                                                                        
     Category: Health/Human Services                                                                                            
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2004 - 06/30/2005                                                                           
     On-Going Project                                                                                                           
     The project will promote  the Department's mission of providing                                                            
     outdoor   recreational  opportunities   by  funding   emergency                                                            
     repairs to  park units to protect visitor health  and safety by                                                            
     providing  safe,  clean, and  well-maintained  units.  Projects                                                            
     will  upgrade or replace  basic facilities  at parks  including                                                            
     ranger  stations, outhouses,  drinking  water systems,  trails,                                                            
     and camping sites  so that these items will not be added to the                                                            
     existing deferred maintenance backlog.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bus stated these projects would be funded from revenues                                                                     
collected from park user fees, and would address any emergency                                                                  
within the State's 121 park units.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Airborne Geological and Geophysical Mineral Inventory                                                                      
     $200,000 general fund                                                                                                      
     Reference No.: 6852                                                                                                        
     Category: Development                                                                                                      
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2004 - 06/30/2006                                                                           
     On-Going Project                                                                                                           
     The Airborne  Geophysical/Geological Mineral  Inventory project                                                            
     seeks   to   catalyze   private-sector   mineral   development                                                             
     investment.  Alaska State  lands that:  1) have major  economic                                                            
     potential;  2) can be  developed in the  short term to  provide                                                            
     high  quality jobs  for Alaska;  and 3)  will provide  economic                                                            
     diversification  to  help offset  the loss of  Prudhoe Bay  oil                                                            
     revenue.  Mineral  resources  comprise  a major  part  Alaska's                                                            
     economic  assets,  yet  the location  and  magnitude  of  these                                                            
     resources  are  largely  unknown.   Knowledge  of  the  State's                                                            
     mineral resources  is a key to orderly development of the State                                                            
     and maintenance of a stable economy.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bus stated this is "repeat project". He noted this request is                                                               
"modest" compared to previous appropriations.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken recalled that the funding was not appropriated for                                                              
this project the previous year to allow the program to "catch up                                                                
with itself".                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bus affirmed that the last appropriation was made in FY 03.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken commented this has been a successful program in the                                                             
interior and southeast regions of the State.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska Cadastral Project                                                                                                   
     $400,000 Federal Receipts                                                                                                  
     Reference No.: 37768                                                                                                       
     Category: Natural Resources                                                                                                
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2004 - 06/30/2006                                                                           
     Phased Project                                                                                                             
     The goal of this project  is to create an integrated system for                                                            
     sharing land parcel  information between federal, state, local,                                                            
     and  Native organizations.  The Alaska  Cadastral Project  will                                                            
     enable anyone to access  current rights, interests and boundary                                                            
     information   involving  real  property.  The  project   builds                                                            
     partnerships  for the collection, management,  standardization,                                                            
     and  sharing of  Alaska's land  parcel information  to  improve                                                            
     business  processes and  support decision  making. The  project                                                            
     offers  several strategic areas  for improving the services  of                                                            
     State  and  local  government  by  improving  the  quality  and                                                            
     accessibility  of  essential  business information  related  to                                                            
     real property. See the project web site http:cadastral.info                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bus outlined this request.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     National Historic Preservation Fund Federal Grant Program                                                                  
     $950,000 Federal Receipts                                                                                                  
     Reference No.: 6865                                                                                                        
     Category: Natural Resources                                                                                                
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2004 - 09/30/2006                                                                           
     State Match Required                                                                                                       
     On-Going Project                                                                                                           
     The  National Historic  Preservation Fund  (NHPF) is a  federal                                                            
     matching grant project  with a 60% federal and 40% State match.                                                            
     It  provides the State  a basic historic  preservation  program                                                            
     including  planning,  survey,  inventory,  project  review  and                                                            
     public education.  Cooperative agreements with federal agencies                                                            
     and grants  from federal programs, which do not  require match,                                                            
     fund  cultural  resource  management   projects.  The  historic                                                            
     preservation  program contributes  to the Department's  mission                                                            
     through  the  development,  conservation  and use  of  Alaska's                                                            
     heritage  properties  which  is  consistence  with  the  public                                                            
     interest and the Alaska Historic Preservation Act.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bus remarked that this project has been highly successful.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken asked if the funding to provide the necessary 40                                                                
percent match is included in the proposed FY 05 operating budget.                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bus answered it is.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska Minerals  Information At Risk Program:  Mining and Lands                                                            
     Records Integration Completion                                                                                             
     $500,000 Federal Receipts                                                                                                  
     Reference No.: 34095                                                                                                       
     Category: Development                                                                                                      
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2004 - 06/30/2006                                                                           
     Phased Project                                                                                                             
     This project seeks  to expand opportunities for exploration and                                                            
     development  of mineral resources in Alaska.  It will develop a                                                            
     new  public   interface  to   a  wide  range  of  multi-agency                                                             
     information on mineral  resources and mining properties via the                                                            
     Internet.  Agency  business  practices  are being  modified  to                                                            
     assure  that timely updates are  rapidly incorporated  into the                                                            
     system.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bus read the summary into the record.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     State Park Deferred Maintenance                                                                                            
     $50,000 Receipt Services                                                                                                   
     Reference No.: 38878                                                                                                       
     Category: Natural Resources                                                                                                
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2004 - 06/30/2006                                                                           
     On-Going Project                                                                                                           
     State  Parks  has  identified  over  $42  million  in  deferred                                                            
     maintenance  needs. This project will promote  the Department's                                                            
     mission  of providing  outdoor  recreational  opportunities  by                                                            
     funding deferred  maintenance repairs to park  units to protect                                                            
     visitor  health and safety by  providing safe, clean,  and well                                                            
     maintained  units.  Projects  will  upgrade  or  replace  basic                                                            
     facilities  at  parks  including  ranger  stations,  outhouses,                                                            
     drinking water systems, trails and camping.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bus stated this funding would be utilized to address the most                                                               
critical deferred maintenance needs.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken asked how this request differs from #6843, State                                                                
Park Emergency Repairs.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bus replied the first item addresses the critical projects.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  clarified both would  be supported with  user fees.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bus affirmed.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator B. Stevens referenced  the Project Description/Justification                                                            
statement  claim that repairs  of the identified  projects  could no                                                            
longer be made  using only duct tape and bailing wire.  He commented                                                            
that such repairs are indicative of Alaskan ingenuity.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska  Mineral,  Energy  and  Geohazards  Inventory  Federally                                                            
     Funded Projects                                                                                                            
     $2,410,000 Federal Receipts                                                                                                
     Reference No.: 38144                                                                                                       
     Category: Development                                                                                                      
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2004 - 06/30/2007                                                                           
     On-Going Project                                                                                                           
     The   Alaska,  Mineral,   Energy,  and   Geohazards   Inventory                                                            
     federally  funded project comprises a group of  geological data                                                            
     generation,  organization, and public data delivery  tasks that                                                            
     are  directly  tied  to geological  inventory  mandates  in  AS                                                            
     41.08, the legislatively  designated outcome measures for DGGS.                                                            
     This project provides  receipts authority for committed Federal                                                            
     funds  specifically directed  towards making Alaska  geological                                                            
     information  more widely available and more easily  accessible.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bus referenced the  Project Description/Justification listing of                                                            
the proposed projects.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde  understood  that matching funds  are not required  to                                                            
receive federal  funding for all the proposed projects.  He asked if                                                            
for  those  projects  requiring  matching   funds,  whether  in-kind                                                            
services could be substituted.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bus  replied  that  in-kind  services  could  be  utilized  and                                                            
performed  by  the  Department,  other  State  agencies,  and  other                                                            
organizations.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde  pointed out that the previous request,  #38878; users                                                            
of the State parks  would pay the cost of the project  through fees.                                                            
He asked  if those parties  that would  undertake mining  activities                                                            
pay the costs of this project.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bus countered that  many projects are "aimed at industries" that                                                            
do not  have the  resources  to undertake  these  projects. He  also                                                            
pointed out that because these are prospective projects, the actual                                                             
users are not yet known.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde characterized this project as an on-going subsidy.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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     Federal  and Local Government  Funded Forest Resource  and Fire                                                            
     Program Projects                                                                                                           
     $3,800,000                                                                                                                 
          $2,800,000 Federal Receipts                                                                                           
          $1,000,000 Statutory Designated Program Receipts (SDPR)                                                               
     Reference No.: AMD37769                                                                                                    
     Category: Natural Resources                                                                                                
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2003 - 06/30/2006                                                                           
     On-Going Project                                                                                                           
     This project  provides receipt authority for  federal and local                                                            
     government   funds  including   federal   National  Fire   Plan                                                            
     allocations  to  Alaska.  Funding  provides   specific  support                                                            
     including  the ability  of the  State and  local government  to                                                            
     educate,  mitigate,  prepare  for  and respond  to  threats  of                                                            
     wildland  fire. This  authority will  allow State direction  to                                                            
     cooperative  forestry  projects  in  which State,  federal  and                                                            
     local   governments  have  mutual   interest  to  participate.                                                             
     Projects  also include  forest health  initiatives, insect  and                                                            
     disease  examination,  internships,  and  community  and  urban                                                            
     forest  inventories; and, local  government funding  for hazard                                                            
     fuels  reductions,  fuels  treatment,  and  forest stewardship                                                             
     projects.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bus outlined this request.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Cooperative Forestry and Fire Pass-Through Federal Grants                                                                  
     $800,000 Federal Receipts                                                                                                  
     Reference No.: 6883                                                                                                        
     Category: Development                                                                                                      
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2004 - 06/30/2006                                                                           
     On-Going Project                                                                                                           
     The  Division  of Forestry  utilizes  federal  funds for  pass-                                                            
     through  grants  to achieve  improved  local  capabilities  for                                                            
     wildland    fire   suppression;   enhanced   local    community                                                            
     environmental   conditions   w/tree  planting   and   community                                                            
     forestry;  increased productivity  from non-industrial  private                                                            
     forest land holdings.  Federal fund pass-through grants enhance                                                            
     local communities'  and local governments' self-sufficiency and                                                            
     self-reliance.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bus reminded that this project is repeated every year.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator  B.   Stevens  referenced   #AMD37769,  Federal   and  Local                                                            
Government  Funded Forest  Resource and Fire  Program Projects,  and                                                            
asked if this project had been undertaken in past years.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bus  responded  that the Kenai  Peninsula  Borough collects  the                                                            
statutory designated program  receipts, as a federal grant, for this                                                            
project  and the  Department  has  anticipated  the funds  would  be                                                            
needed for FY 05 and FY 06.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Abandoned Mine Lands Reclamation Federal Program                                                                           
     $1,500,000 Federal Receipts                                                                                                
     Reference No.: 6855                                                                                                        
     Category: Public Protections                                                                                               
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2004 - 06/30/2007                                                                           
     On-Going Project                                                                                                           
     The Legislature enacted  the Alaska Surface Coal Mining Control                                                            
     and  Reclamation  Act  in 1983  (AS  27.21).  One of  the  main                                                            
     purposes  of the Act  was to promote  the reclamation  of areas                                                            
     mined  and left without adequate  reclamation before  enactment                                                            
     of the  federal Surface Mining  Control and Reclamation  Act of                                                            
     1977.  These mined  areas endanger  public  health and  safety,                                                            
     substantially   degrade   the  environment   and  prevent   the                                                            
     beneficial use of  or cause damage to land and water resources.                                                            
     This program  will employ up  to 50 Alaskans in private  sector                                                            
     jobs  as part of the  reclamation efforts.  As a result  of the                                                            
     reclamation  effort, State lands that are currently  not usable                                                            
     will be made available for development and use by Alaskans.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bus informed  that each year sites  are selected and  contracted                                                            
out for reclamation.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bunde   asked  the  locations   of  sites  identified   for                                                            
reclamation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bus stated he would provide the information.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde  asked if this project would extend  to reclamation of                                                            
lands on the  North Slope damaged  from oil exploration activities.                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bus  replied that  this program  pertains  primarily to  surface                                                            
mining activities.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  asked whether privately operated  mines have access                                                            
to these funds.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bus  responded  that the  businesses  are  levied  the  federal                                                            
Abandoned  Mined Land  fee  and that  the federal  government  makes                                                            
determinations of eligible recipients of the funds.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde  observed that efforts  are made in some instances  to                                                            
preserve historical mining sites.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Land and Water Conservation Fund Federal Grants                                                                            
     $1,250,000 Federal Receipts                                                                                                
     Reference No.: 32552                                                                                                       
     Category: Development                                                                                                      
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2004 - 06/30/2007                                                                           
     On-Going Project                                                                                                           
     LWCF is  a 50/50 matching grant  program that provides  funding                                                            
     for   the  development   of   outdoor  recreation   areas   and                                                            
     facilities.  More than any other  state in the union,  Alaskans                                                            
     recreate  outdoors. LWCF  is consistent  with DNR's mission  in                                                            
     that,  in terms of outdoor recreation,  it develops,  conserves                                                            
     and maximizes  Alaska's natural (outdoor recreation)  resources                                                            
     consistent with the public interest.                                                                                       
     New or rehabilitated  LWCF projects increase the number of park                                                            
     visits,  furthering  a  desired  end  result.  Privatizing  the                                                            
     management  of a  LWCF assisted  site is  consistent with  LWCF                                                            
     policy,  addressing a second  desired end result. LWCF  program                                                            
     staff  is  responsible  for  monitoring  compliance  with  LWCF                                                            
     regulation and policy.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bus   told  how   local  communities   could   apply  for   the                                                            
establishment of parks  within their boundaries. He explained that a                                                            
board reviews proposals for approval.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  asked the source  of the necessary matching  funds.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bus replied  that organizations, such as soccer  clubs and other                                                            
local groups, provide these funds.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken asked  if  distribution of  these  grants would  be                                                            
prorated if  the legislature did not  appropriate the entire  amount                                                            
of matching funds required.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bus  clarified  that the  State does  not provide  the  matching                                                            
funds, but rather  acts as a pass-though entity to  appropriated the                                                            
federal  funds to  local communities  that contribute  the  required                                                            
match.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  asked the  historical average  of the requests  for                                                            
these programs.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bus  replied that the  success rate to  participate is  high and                                                            
dependant  upon the proposal  and ability  to provide the  necessary                                                            
matching funds.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska Boating Safety Program                                                                                              
     $600,000 Federal Receipts                                                                                                  
     Reference No.: 32553                                                                                                       
     Category: Health/Human Services                                                                                            
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2004 - 06/30/2007                                                                           
     State Match Required                                                                                                       
     On-Going Project                                                                                                           
     Under  [AS] 41.21.010  and 41.21.020  the Department is,  among                                                            
     other  things,   responsible  for  fostering   the  growth  and                                                            
     development  of  recreational  opportunities  for  the  health,                                                            
     welfare,  education  and  enjoyment  of the  public,  providing                                                            
     consulting  services  to develop  recreational  activities  and                                                            
     programs,  providing  programs  and clearinghouse  services  on                                                            
     park and recreation  matters, and other duties as prescribed by                                                            
     law.  The  program   contributes  to  this  mission   (and  the                                                            
     additional  responsibilities prescribed by law  under AS 05.25)                                                            
     by  working  to  reduce  recreational  boating  facilities  and                                                            
     accidents,  and promoting safe, enjoyable recreational  boating                                                            
     in Alaska, primarily through boater education.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bus informed this program  is intended to reduce fatality rates.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  asked how the State  matching funds are  generated.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bus was unsure.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
JEFF JOHNSON,  Boating Law Administrator, Office of  Boating Safety,                                                            
Division  of Parks  and Outdoor  Recreation,  Department of  Natural                                                            
Resources,   testified  via  teleconference   from  an  unspecified                                                             
location,  that State  matching funds  are required  to receive  the                                                            
U.S.  Coast  Guard  funds,  and  have  been  garnered  from  various                                                            
sources.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde recalled  recent legislation relating to collection of                                                            
boat registration  fees and asked  if these funds would be  used for                                                            
the State match.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Johnson  replied that  the Division of  Motor Vehicles  collects                                                            
over  $400,000  in boat  registration  fees,  of which  $380,000  is                                                            
utilized  for  the  registration   expenses  and  the  remainder  is                                                            
deposited into the general fund.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bunde asked  if  any of  the revenue  collected  from  boat                                                            
registration  fees could be  utilized for  the State match  required                                                            
for this project.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Johnson answered it could.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Snowmobile Trail Development and Program Grants                                                                            
     $200,000 Receipts Services                                                                                                 
     Reference No.: 33690                                                                                                       
     Category: Transportation                                                                                                   
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2004 - 06/30/2007                                                                           
     On-Going Project                                                                                                           
     Snowmobiling   is one  of  Alaska's  fastest   growing  outdoor                                                            
     recreation   activities.  Funds  are  needed   to  develop  and                                                            
     maintain  trails  and trailheads  to  provide  for safe  riding                                                            
     opportunities  and  to educate  riders about  safety  concerns.                                                            
     Funds for this program  are provided by snowmobile registration                                                            
     fees  paid by Alaskans.  Funds are distributed  in the  form of                                                            
     matching  grants  for  trail  and  trailhead   development  and                                                            
     maintenance, safety education, and trail identification.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bus outlined this item.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  requested a list  of recipients of these  funds the                                                            
previous year.  He noted the "Project Support" list  included in the                                                            
Project   Description/Justification    statement   and   asked   the                                                            
percentages of distribution  to the listed parties. He remarked that                                                            
users  want  assurance  that snow  machine  activities  receive  the                                                            
benefits of the $25 user fees.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     National Recreational Trails Federal Program                                                                               
     $695,000 Federal Receipts                                                                                                  
     Reference No.: 6854                                                                                                        
     Category: Transportation                                                                                                   
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2004 - 06/30/2007                                                                           
     On-Going Project                                                                                                           
     Alaskans  rely  on  trails  for  recreation,  subsistence,  and                                                            
     travel  between communities.  These trails need maintenance  to                                                            
     ensure  safe passage and  to ensure that  they remain  open and                                                            
     available  for use.  Funds are  distributed  by 80-20  matching                                                            
     grants  for recreational  trail and  trailhead development  and                                                            
     maintenance,  and  for  education programs  relating  to  trail                                                            
     safety  and environmental  protection.  Grants  are awarded  to                                                            
     organizations, agencies and local governments.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bus stated this is a recurring project.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Forest Legacy Federal  Grant Program in Wood-Tikchik State Park                                                            
     $4,500,000 Federal Receipts                                                                                                
     Reference No.: 34881                                                                                                       
     Category: Natural Resources                                                                                                
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2004 - 06/30/2006                                                                           
     On-Going Project                                                                                                           
     The  Forest   Legacy  Program  provides  federal   funding  for                                                            
     acquisition   of   high-value   private  forestland   that   is                                                            
     threatened  with  conversion  to  non-forest  use. Legislative                                                             
     intent  targets  private  in-holdings  adjacent  to, or  within                                                            
     existing  conservation  units (parks,  refuges, etc.) that  are                                                            
     primarily   used  for  fish   and  wildlife  habitat,   outdoor                                                            
     recreation  and  traditional access  that  would be  disrupted,                                                            
     destroyed,  or  degraded if  the private  property  were to  be                                                            
     converted to non-forest  use. This allows the conservation unit                                                            
     manager, such as State  Parks, to conserve the land for outdoor                                                            
     recreation  opportunities  and  maximize  the use  of  critical                                                            
     areas for all members of the public.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bus informed that a Native corporation owns the land proposed                                                               
for acquisition and is willing to sell the land for conservation                                                                
purposes.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken clarified that at a cost of $4.5 million in federal                                                             
funds 1,153 acres of land would be removed from the tax base.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Coastal  Wetlands Grant - Nushagak  Bay Watershed Conservation                                                             
     Phase 1                                                                                                                    
     $1,000,000 Federal Receipts                                                                                                
     Reference No.: 39042                                                                                                       
     Category: Natural Resources                                                                                                
     Location: Aleknagik                                                                                                        
     Election District: Bristol Bay/Aleutians                                                                                   
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2004 - 06/30/2005                                                                           
     One-Time Project                                                                                                           
     In  Phase I of  this project  (the FY 05  request), the  Alaska                                                            
     Division  of Parks and Outdoor Recreation will  acquire, either                                                            
     by perpetual  conservation easement or fee simple,  7,000 acres                                                            
     of  wetland   in-holdings  within   Wood-Tikchik  State   Park,                                                            
     including   the  four-mile  long  Agulowak  River,   associated                                                            
     uplands  and approximately  12 miles  of freshwater  shorelines                                                            
     within the  Nushagak Bay Watershed. The principal  objective of                                                            
     this project  is to protect a major anadromous  fish system and                                                            
     perpetuate  the  fish, wildlife,  habitat  and public  benefits                                                            
     they support within and outside the Park.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bus outlined this project.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken clarified the total cost of this project would be                                                               
$3 million and that a total of 7,000 acres would be purchased.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bus affirmed.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green pointed out this funding would pay the purchase                                                                  
cost, but no maintenance expenses.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     USGS Streamgaging Cooperative Program                                                                                      
     $230,000 SDPR                                                                                                              
     Reference No.: 37762                                                                                                       
     Category: Development                                                                                                      
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2004 - 06/30/2006                                                                           
     On-Going Project                                                                                                           
     DNR  will   accept  funds  from   the  private  sector,   local                                                            
     government  and  other state  agencies,  and pass  those  funds                                                            
     through  to USGS  as part of  its stream  gaging coop  program.                                                            
     Industry, State and  local government often asks, and pays for,                                                            
     the USGS to install  and operate a stream gage. The information                                                            
     is  necessary  for  resource  development  and  for  permitting                                                            
     projects such as mining,  hydroelectric, or public water supply                                                            
     which  fits into DNR's overall  mission. If the private  sector                                                            
     pays the USGS directly,  USGS can't provide matching funds. But                                                            
     if the funding is  passed through a State agency, the funds can                                                            
     be matched at 100% by the federal government.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bus read the summary statement into the record.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Mental Health Trust Land Development                                                                                       
     $650,000  Mental  Health Trust  Authority  Authorized  Receipts                                                            
     (MHTAAR)                                                                                                                   
     Reference No.: 6853                                                                                                        
     Category: Development                                                                                                      
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2004 - 06/30/2007                                                                           
     On-Going Project                                                                                                           
     The  Trust Land  Office  (TLO) will  contract  for services  to                                                            
     supplant  its  core  operations.  Typically  the  services  are                                                            
     related to nonrecurring  projects such as the administration of                                                            
     a large timber  sale, the evaluation of a particularly  complex                                                            
     transaction,  development   of an  asset  management  plan  for                                                            
     certain  trust lands or resources  or significant improvements                                                             
     to the TLO's information  management system. The TLO, supported                                                            
     by  funds  derived  from Trust  Income,  manages  and  develops                                                            
     Alaska  Mental  Health  Trust lands  on  behalf of  the  Alaska                                                            
     Mental  Health Trust Authority.  Our mission is to protect  and                                                            
     enhance  values of  and maximize  revenues  from Alaska  Mental                                                            
     Health Trust Land.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bus outlined this request.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Agriculture Industry Federally Funded Project Opportunities                                                                
     $750,000 Federal Receipts                                                                                                  
     Reference No.: 39269                                                                                                       
     Category: Development                                                                                                      
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2004 - 06/30/2007                                                                           
     One-Time Project                                                                                                           
     This project  will incorporate several feasibility  studies for                                                            
     various  segments of agriculture  production and contribute  to                                                            
     the Department's  mission by creating opportunities  to benefit                                                            
     the agriculture  industry. This will result in  increased sales                                                            
     statewide and provide export possibilities.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bus  gave examples  of  reindeer  and  ethanol  as agriculture                                                             
products these funds would be utilized to promote.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken  clarified  this  is  intended  to  be a  one  time                                                            
project.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bus replied this is the intent to date.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bunde  questioned   the  feasibility  of  encouraging   the                                                            
development  of ethanol that would  require continued subsidies,  as                                                            
this product has  never "paid for itself". He also  opined that once                                                            
ethanol  was developed,  it not  be marketed  due  to high  shipping                                                            
costs.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bus  explained  this  project  would  provide  for feasibility                                                             
studies to determine whether  certain agricultural ventures would be                                                            
viable in Alaska.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken informed  that this issue arose because the Director                                                            
of the Division of Agriculture  was directed to identify new ways to                                                            
develop agriculture in the State.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Plant  Material  Center  Shop  and Storage  Shed  Planning  and                                                            
     Design                                                                                                                     
     $375,000 Federal Receipts                                                                                                  
     Reference No.: 39270                                                                                                       
     Category: Natural Resources                                                                                                
     Location: Palmer (Greater Palmer)                                                                                          
     Election District: Greater Palmer                                                                                          
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2004 - 06/30/2005                                                                           
     One-Time Project                                                                                                           
     The Alaska  Plant Materials Center  (PMC) is in dire  need of a                                                            
     replacement repair  shop and equipment shed. The building being                                                            
     used  for most of these  functions is  well over 60 years  old.                                                            
     The  Alaska  Plant  Materials  Center   supports  many  federal                                                            
     projects  in the State. The equipment used on  federal programs                                                            
     needs  protection from the weather  and is in need of  constant                                                            
     repair,  requiring  shop space.  A  new facility  will  provide                                                            
     space for  both storage and repair. This project  funded by the                                                            
     USDA Natural  Resource Conservation Service funds  planning and                                                            
     design  for  a  new  building,  not  the actual  construction.                                                             
     Federal  funding  for  constructed  may  be pursued  after  the                                                            
     results of the planning and design are completed.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bus  informed  that  federal  Occupational  Safety  and  Health                                                            
Administration (OSHA) inspections found many safety issues.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken asked the estimated cost of a new building.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bus answered  the  amount  would  likely  be a  couple  million                                                            
dollars.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken  requested  maps  of the  affected  areas  of  land                                                            
subject to  conservation purchase  in #34881, Forest Legacy  Federal                                                            
Grant  Program  in Wood-Tikchik  State  Park,  and  #39042,  Coastal                                                            
Wetlands Grant - Nushagak Bay Watershed Conservation Phase 1.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bus indicated he would provide this information.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  asked if the Department's proposed  budget includes                                                            
any capital  projects intended to  deliver natural gas resources  to                                                            
market.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bus  answered there  are no  such capital  projects included  in                                                            
this budget  request. He noted that  the Department is defining  the                                                            
requirements and would submit project proposals in the future.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Department of Administration                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
ERIC  SWANSON,  Director,   Division  of  Administrative   Services,                                                            
Department  of Administration,  noted the  Department has  submitted                                                            
funding requests for eight  projects totaling $6.9 million, of which                                                            
$250,000 is general funds.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Labor Contract Negotiations and Arbitration Costs                                                                          
     $500,000 ASLC Dividends                                                                                                    
     Reference No.: 39014                                                                                                       
     Category: General Government                                                                                               
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2004 - 06/30/2006                                                                           
     Phased-Underway Project                                                                                                    
     Funding  is necessary  for continued  negotiation with  most or                                                            
     all  bargaining   representatives   and  anticipated   interest                                                            
     arbitration  with ASEA  and potentially  other units  requiring                                                            
     significant   travel,  expert   witnesses,  wage  and   benefit                                                            
     analysis,  and  other expenses  not  normally  incurred in  the                                                            
     Division's routine operations.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Swanson  reported  that  the  State  is currently  negotiating                                                             
employment  contracts with all 12  bargaining units. He stated  this                                                            
funding would be utilized to continue the process.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde  questioned the inclusion of this item  in the capital                                                            
budget, characterizing the expense as operating.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Swanson  replied this would be  a special appropriation  that is                                                            
"project  nature"  and not  a  regular component  of  the  operating                                                            
budget. He noted  the $150,000 appropriation in the  FY 04 operating                                                            
budget.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     License Plates, Tabs, and Manuals                                                                                          
     $385,000 Receipt Services                                                                                                  
     Reference No.: 38867                                                                                                       
     Category: General Government                                                                                               
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2004 - 06/30/2006                                                                           
     On-Going Project                                                                                                           
     Funding  will provide  for the purchase  of license plates  and                                                            
     tabs to maintain statewide  stockage levels necessary for their                                                            
     required  continued  issuance.  The  Division  is  required  by                                                            
     statute  (AS 28.10)  to issue  plates and tabs  and cannot  run                                                            
     out.  The funding also  provides for the  purchase of  the four                                                            
     different  driver manuals and law books that  must be available                                                            
     at all DMV offices.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Swanson noted this is an annual request.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Maintenance   Projects  for   Facilities  Outside  the   Public                                                            
     Building Fund                                                                                                              
     $250,000 general funds                                                                                                     
     Reference No.: 39034                                                                                                       
     Category: General Government                                                                                               
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2004 - 06/30/2006                                                                           
     On-Going Project                                                                                                           
     Funding  is necessary  for maintenance  projects in  facilities                                                            
     outside the public building fund.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Swanson informed that  the Department of Administration provides                                                            
maintenance  for  six buildings  located  in Juneau:  the  Governors                                                            
Mansion,  the   third  floor  of   the  Capitol  Building,   Diamond                                                            
Courthouse,  Archives and Records  Center, the Alaska State  Museum,                                                            
and the Subport  building. He stated  this funding request  would be                                                            
utilized for exterior repairs to the Dimond Courthouse.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Juneau Subport Remediation Survey                                                                                          
     $30,000 ASLC Dividends                                                                                                     
     Reference No.: 39036                                                                                                       
     Category: General Government                                                                                               
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2004 - 06/30/2005                                                                           
     One-Time Project                                                                                                           
     Funds  are necessary  to determine the  project scope  and plan                                                            
     for  remediation  of  the Juneau  Subport  Building,  which  is                                                            
     located  on  land  owned  by the  Alaska  Mental  Health  Trust                                                            
     Authority  (AMHTA).  The AMHTA  has advised  the Department  of                                                            
     Administration that  it will not renew the land lease beyond FY                                                            
     05.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Swanson pointed  out the lease for this facility  expires at the                                                            
end of the  upcoming fiscal year,  at which time the building  would                                                            
be  demolished.   The  State,  he   reported,  is  responsible   for                                                            
addressing  asbestos   or  soil  contaminations  found   during  the                                                            
demolition. He remarked  that the building is "World War II vintage"                                                            
and therefore the extent of contaminants is unknown.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska Land Mobile Radio                                                                                                   
     $400,000 ASLC Dividend                                                                                                     
     Reference No.: 39024                                                                                                       
     Category: Development                                                                                                      
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2004 - 06/30/2005                                                                           
     Phased-Underway Project                                                                                                    
     Funding  will be  used to  continue the  process of  converting                                                            
     Federal,  State, and local emergency communications  systems to                                                            
     technology that will  provide for interoperability (the ability                                                            
     of different agencies  with different communications systems to                                                            
      communicate across jurisdictions and with each other).                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Swanson qualified  this expense is more accurately  an operating                                                            
budget item,  however, the  project is not  expected to continue  in                                                            
perpetuity. He stated the  completion date is estimated to be during                                                            
2007, at which time this funding would no longer be needed.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Dyson  asked whether  this  funding  would be  utilized  to                                                            
construct repeater stations, or to purchase radios.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Swanson replied that  most of this funding would be allocated to                                                            
the salaries  of staff working  on this project.  He explained  that                                                            
other funding  sources, including  federal  funds, are utilized  for                                                            
purchasing the equipment.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson  assumed much of the  costs of maintaining  the sites,                                                            
and the  individual  radios would  be borne as  a homeland  security                                                            
expense.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Swanson  stated  that the  project  director  would  be  better                                                            
informed on this matter is unavailable.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken asked the  total estimated cost of the entire Alaska                                                            
Land Mobile Radio system.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Swanson deferred to the unavailable staff.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  characterized this project as a "moving  target for                                                            
several  years".  He  offered  to  invite  Jack  Phelps  to  give  a                                                            
presentation on this project to the Committee.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
STAN HERRERA,  Director,  Enterprise Technology  Services  Division,                                                            
Department of Administration,  testified that several cost estimates                                                            
have been made and that  he would provide the most current estimate.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken commented that this request is only a portion of                                                                
the $20 million to $30 million cost of the project.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Herrera replied this is likely true.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Enterprise Technology Services Equipment Replacement Fund                                                                  
     $1,814,000 Information Services funds                                                                                      
     Reference No.: 39286                                                                                                       
     Category: Development                                                                                                      
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2004 - 06/30/2005                                                                           
     On-Going Project                                                                                                           
     The  purpose  of this  project  is to  purchase/lease  the  top                                                            
     priority  equipment  and services  that will  meet current  and                                                            
     expected  customer demand, within the amount  collected through                                                            
     ETS chargeback rates  for depreciation. These expenditures will                                                            
     maximize  federal participation in this internal  service fund.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Swanson noted this is an annual request to replace and refresh                                                              
computer equipment. He referenced the list of intended purchases                                                                
included in the Project Description/Justification statement.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken asked if the funding source is from charges                                                                     
assessed to other State agencies for information technology                                                                     
services.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Swanson affirmed.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Public Building Facilities Projects                                                                                        
     $3,000,000 Public Building funds                                                                                           
     Reference No.: 39025                                                                                                       
     Category: General Government                                                                                               
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2004 - 06/30/2005                                                                           
     Funding is  necessary for continued maintenance  of State-owned                                                            
     facilities  that make  up the  group known  as Public  Building                                                            
     Fund  facilities.  These facilities  include  the State  Office                                                            
     Building,  the Alaska Office Building, the Community  Building,                                                            
     the  Douglas   Island  Building,   the  Atwood  Building,   the                                                            
     Fairbanks  Regional Office Building, the Court  Plaza Building,                                                            
     and the Dimond Court House.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Swanson noted the funds are collected from State agencies                                                                   
occupying the said facilities.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Central Mail Service Equipment                                                                                             
     $550,000 Inter-Agency (I/A) Receipts                                                                                       
     Reference No.: 39035                                                                                                       
     Category: General Government                                                                                               
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2004 - 06/30/2005                                                                           
     Funding is necessary for replacement of mail inserting and                                                                 
     sorting equipment.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Swanson  stated  the intent is  to accumulate  funds to  replace                                                            
equipment as it becomes obsolete.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Department of Community and Economic Development                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
TOM  LAWSON,   Director,   Division  of   Administrative   Services,                                                            
Department of  Community and Economic Development,  testified to the                                                            
seven projects  the Department was requesting funding  to undertake.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Re-Engineering Insurance Business Processes                                                                                
     $525,000 Receipt Services funds                                                                                            
     Reference No.: 39280                                                                                                       
     Category: General Government                                                                                               
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2004 - 06/30/2007                                                                           
     One-Time Project                                                                                                           
     This  project  will  automate  and modernize  the  Division  of                                                            
     Insurance's   various  on-line  systems.   The  purpose  is  to                                                            
     redesign  the business processes  currently in place  to assure                                                            
     competitive, viable,  ethical and lawful insurance is available                                                            
     to Alaskans.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Lawson informed  this  project would  be funded  with  revenues                                                            
collected  by the  Division  of Insurance.  The result,  he  stated,                                                            
would be  a "web based  environment" that  would allow all  Division                                                            
offices to interface.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Community Development Grants                                                                                               
     $9,375,000                                                                                                                 
          $9,200,000 Federal Receipts                                                                                           
             157,100 ASLC Dividend                                                                                              
              17,900 AHFC Dividend                                                                                              
     Reference No.: 38943                                                                                                       
     Category: Housing/Social Services                                                                                          
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2004 - 06/30/2009                                                                           
     State Match Required                                                                                                       
     On-Going Project                                                                                                           
     Multiple  federally-funded programs,  enabling DCED  to provide                                                            
     grants   to  communities  and   non-profit  organizations   for                                                            
     community development.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Lawson  gave examples of the various  projects, including  flood                                                            
plain and erosion  management program, economic development,  multi-                                                            
use facilities, and mapping.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken asked  if the source  of the  $9.2 million  federal                                                            
funds  was entirely  from the  Federal Emergency  Management  Agency                                                            
(FEMA).                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Lawson replied that  $300,000 is FEMA funds and $300,000 is from                                                            
the US  Department  of Agriculture,  of which  both sources  require                                                            
State  matching  funds.  He  pointed out  that  an  additional  $8.6                                                            
million  appropriation of  federal Denali  Commission funding  would                                                            
not require State Matching funds.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Community Block Grants                                                                                                     
     $6,000,000 Federal Receipts                                                                                                
     Reference No.: 38946                                                                                                       
     Category: Housing/Social Services                                                                                          
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2004 - 06/30/2009                                                                           
     On-Going Project                                                                                                           
     Multiple  federally funded programs,  enabling DCED  to provide                                                            
     grants  to communities  and non-profits  that provide  services                                                            
      and/or benefit the low- to moderate-income individuals.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Lawson stated  this project provides funds for  use serving low-                                                            
income  residents  and includes  community  services  block  grants,                                                            
grants for  food programs,  and emergency  shelter block grants.  He                                                            
listed two major sources  of this federal funding: the US Department                                                            
of Health  and Social  Services  and Housing  and Urban Development                                                             
(HUD).                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Language Section: Electrical Emergencies                                                                                   
     $330,000 Rural Electric fund                                                                                               
     Reference No.: 32590                                                                                                       
     Category: Health/Human Services                                                                                            
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2004 - 06/30/2009                                                                           
     To provide technical  support when an electric utility has lost                                                            
     the ability to generate  or transmit power to its customers and                                                            
     the condition  is a threat to life, health, and/or  property in                                                            
     the rural community.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Lawson outlined this item.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Language Section: NPR-A Impact Grant Program                                                                               
     $3,190,170 NPR Fund                                                                                                        
     Reference No.: AMD38948                                                                                                    
     Category: Development                                                                                                      
     Location: Barrow                                                                                                           
     Election District: Arctic                                                                                                  
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2004 - 06/30/2009                                                                           
     On-Going Project                                                                                                           
     This  amendment changes  the fund  source from  Federal to  NPR                                                            
     [National Petroleum  Reserve]. Grants to communities for public                                                            
     facilities   and   services.  Priority   is   given  to   those                                                            
     communities  directly or  severely impacted  by the leases  and                                                            
     development  of  oil  and gas  within  the  National  Petroleum                                                            
     Reserve.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Lawson  pointed out that this  item is included in the  language                                                            
section  of the Governor's  version  of the FY  05 operating  budget                                                            
legislation. He  characterized the fund source change  as technical.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Lawson  informed  that  this  fall  applications  for  projects                                                            
totaling  over $7.5  million were  submitted and  that ten  projects                                                            
were chosen, at a cost of $3,030,000.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  referenced a report  [copy not provided]  detailing                                                            
this program.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken remarked  that this  continues the  problem with  a                                                            
funding  source that  is contrary  to  the Alaska  Constitution.  He                                                            
reported   that  efforts   were  undertaken   during  the   previous                                                            
legislative interim to address this issue.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Federal Energy Projects                                                                                                    
     $35,750,000                                                                                                                
          $35,000,000 Federal Receipts                                                                                          
              500,000 I/A Receipts                                                                                              
              250,000 ASLC Bonds                                                                                                
     Reference No.: 38950                                                                                                       
     Category: Health/Human Services                                                                                            
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2004 - 06/30/2009                                                                           
     State Match Required                                                                                                       
     2% Minimum State Match Required                                                                                            
     On-Going Project                                                                                                           
     Multiple federally funded energy programs of Bulk Fuel                                                                     
     Upgrades, Rural Power Systems Upgrades, Alternative Energy and                                                             
     Energy Efficiency projects.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Lawson  overviewed this item.  He pointed out that the  majority                                                            
of funding  for  these projects  would  be appropriated  though  the                                                            
Denali   Commission   and  referenced   the   Project  Description/                                                             
Justification statement outlining this.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Morris Thompson Cultural and Visitors Center                                                                               
     $250,000 ASLC Dividend                                                                                                     
     Reference No.: 39289                                                                                                       
     Category: Development                                                                                                      
     Location: Fairbanks Areawide                                                                                               
     Election District: Fairbanks Areawide                                                                                      
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2004 - 06/30/2009                                                                           
     One-Time Project                                                                                                           
     Grant to provide funding for the Morris Thompson Cultural and                                                              
     Visitors Center.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Lawson  stated this  request would provide  funding to  continue                                                            
the development  of the  Center. He  listed the  total cost  of this                                                            
multiple phased project at $23 million.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken relayed that  he attended  a presentation  given by                                                            
the Doyon Native Corporation,  which provided a $500,000 donation to                                                            
begin the fundraising efforts for this project.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Lawson next addressed  two items included in an amendment to the                                                            
Governor's  proposed  FY 05  capital  budget relating  to  Municipal                                                            
Capital  Grants and  Unincorporated  Matching Grants.  He  explained                                                            
that   these  items   pertain  to   balances  held   on  behalf   of                                                            
municipalities and unincorporated  communities for certain projects.                                                            
He stated  that these  funds "got  caught up on  the CBR sweep"  and                                                            
were not retained from  the previous fiscal year. This amendment, he                                                            
explained,  would   reinstate  these  funds  and  would   allow  the                                                            
communities one year to  access and expend them. He pointed out that                                                            
if the  funds were  not expended  within the  one-year time  period,                                                            
they would lapse into the  State general fund. He further noted that                                                            
balances  less than  $1,000 would  not be reinstated.  He  qualified                                                            
this provision is dependant upon passage of SB 283.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken clarified  the  $4 million  is intended  for  those                                                            
communities  that "saved  money"  from prior  appropriations,  which                                                            
were eliminated with the  CBR sweep. He asked whether this amendment                                                            
would require additional funds.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Lawson answered it would not.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Department of Corrections                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Deferred Maintenance, Repair, and Renovations                                                                              
     $2,100,000 ASLC Bonds                                                                                                      
     Reference No.: 36788                                                                                                       
     Category: Public Protection                                                                                                
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2004 - 06/30/2009                                                                           
     On-Going Project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
JERRY  BURNETT,  Director,  Division  of  Administrative   Services,                                                            
Department of  Corrections, testified that the Department  maintains                                                            
approximately 133 building  statewide, all of which are 20 years old                                                            
or older.  He  stated this  request would  allow  the Department  to                                                            
address the most essential and critical needs.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken referenced  the list  of proposed  projects in  the                                                            
Project Description/Justification   statement and asked whether  the                                                            
projects were listed in priority order.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Burnett answered they are not.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Dyson  informed that  he  visited  the prison  facility  in                                                            
Sutton five  years prior  and learned that  staff was attempting  to                                                            
replace defective  equipment but were unable to convince  management                                                            
purchase  the new  equipment.  He also  stated that  more funds  are                                                            
annually  spent   to  keep  the  existing   building  alarm   system                                                            
operational  than would  be required  to purchase  a new system.  He                                                            
asked the witness  the estimated replacement  cost of such  a system                                                            
and asked if  the legislature "makes  it more difficult"  to justify                                                            
capital  purchases  than  request  funding   to continually   repair                                                            
obsolete equipment.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Burnett replied  he  could provide  the  Department's  priority                                                            
schedule for equipment  replacement. He commented  that repairs made                                                            
with  bailing  wire  and duct  tape  is  sometimes  appropriate.  He                                                            
understood  that the  specific  equipment Senator  Dyson  referenced                                                            
were operational, but qualified  that some buildings were past their                                                            
useful lives.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Dyson remarked  that  prudent  management  plans include  a                                                            
rational equipment  replacement plan.  He encouraged the  Department                                                            
to establish such a replacement plan.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Burnett informed that  the Governor's Chief of Staff established                                                            
a "lean efficiency  team" to review the State's equipment  fleet and                                                            
the management of that fleet.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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Mr. Burnett  continued that one function  of this team is  to review                                                            
equipment lifecycle  and determine  whether it is cost effective  to                                                            
maintain certain equipment beyond that lifecycle.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken appreciated Senator Dyson's suggestions.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  asked if the Murkowski  Administration intended  to                                                            
address overcrowding of jails. He asked the priority of this.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Burnett  responded  that bills  relating to  the alleviation  of                                                            
overcrowding where introduced  in both bodies of the legislature. He                                                            
reported that  the Administration  deemed the matter as "an  issue",                                                            
although he could  not speak to the priority order  in comparison to                                                            
other matters.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  asked if the Administration  deems overcrowding  is                                                            
therefore no longer a problem.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Burnett answered that he "would not say that".                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken ordered the bill HELD in Committee.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Gary Wilken adjourned the meeting at 10:40 AM                                                                          

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